Jack - I won't pick on you for spelling since obviously I am not
the
best speller either....
But since we are debating you didn't
answer my original
question...regardless of whether taxes or legal or
illegal.... How are
you going to pay for basic education, roads,
emergency rooms, fire,
police, bus service...etc. Without
them? What alternative to you
propose so that we still have a
civilized society? Complete anarchy is
not a viable alternative for
anyone..certainly not our children.
Ironically, it is taxes that pay for
government contracts with
Boeing...that helped pay your salary for 30
years and now pays for your
retirement. Boeing is heavily dependent
on government contracts (i.e.
our tax dollars) for at least half of their
business lines. As you must
know, they receive at least half their
business from the Dept. of
Defense, who gets all their money from
us. So the retirement that you
are receiving while on your ranch is
from public tax dollars.
I don't understand your surprise at
centuries of corruption. Think of
all the empires..the Roman
Empire, the Christian Empire under
Charlemagne, the Ottoman Empire,
British Royalty, the British Empire,
French Royalty, Napoleon, the French
Empire, the Russian Czar, Communist
Russia, Chinese Imperialism,
Communist China, the 2nd and 3rd Reichs,
the Incas, the Aztecs..all you
have uncovered is traditional human
nature to control money and power
that has gone on since the first
irrigation systems helped establish the
first villages. Its been that
way since the earliest civilizations... Why
get upset about it?
You want freedom. Freedom from what?
Freedom from what has gone on for
millenniums? Every revolution has
just brought about a new government
that acts the same way within a year
or two. Look at the poor Russian
peasants who tried to get rid of
the Czar and ended up with Stalin
instead. Stalin killed millions and
millions of people. Revolutions just
breed their own corruption.
In any case, lets say all taxes went away. How would we
continue as a
civilized society? Where would your retirement come
from?
Finally, all the heritage area is proposing to do is
celebrate American
history. It has far less to do with taxation
than Boeing. A tiny
little heritage area could never ever equal
Boeing in the use of
American tax dollars.
All the best
Allyson
Allyson Brooks Ph.D.
Director/State Historic
Preservation Officer
Department of Archaeology and Historic
Preservation
Please note: As of Sept. 22nd 2008, DAHP will have new
office hours.
The agency will be open from 7-5:30 on M-Thurs and closed
on Fridays.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Venrick
[mailto:jacksranch@skynetbb.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 1:21
AM
To: Brooks, Allyson (DAHP)
Subject: The Skullduggery of The History
of America
Allyson -
The problem is NOT that the
government has too little funds it is
because it has too much, i.e. too
much power, too much taxes, too much
confiscation's, too much
unaccountable funds. Government does not have
to pay the central
bankers interest on freely printed money, no one has
to pay usurious
interest on free money, all property titles should be
allodial not fee
simple, ad nausea.
The tax system in America on the natural
born goes against all the laws
of the land and "The Laws of Nature and
Nature God". I have been
researching this for 5 years and you can
find my work and others here
https://www.freedomforallseasons.org/FreedomFromTaxesNew.dwt.asp "Income
taxes are unconstitutional and the 16th Amendment was never
fully
ratified by the then 48 states but the illegitimately rammed it
through
and then it was only suppose to be for profit and gain NOT
wages.
Wages are private property and cannot be taxed as they are a
right.
Property taxes have been declared unconstitutional by at least 3
high
state courts because they are not apportioned by every man, women
and
child as the US Constitution declares. The state and
the
teachers union ignore the law. The sales tax is an excise tax
and
cannot be placed directly upon the natural born via a till tax.
The
home sales tax in Washington is an excise tax and cannot be placed
upon
the natural born, only on corporations.
There are no
apportioned direct taxes in America as the constitution
defines, i.e. no
direct taxes upon the natural born are apportioned.
And even then they
were to only be applied during extraordinary crisis
for short periods of
time and not to exceed 2% and to be voluntary.
Read #7
especially.
The freedom movement is uncovering centuries of
corruption and now with
the internet we are able to dig the lies faster
than they can bury them.
Read the following at least on the
above Freedom From Taxes page:
1.
https://www.freedomforallseasons.org/Tax%20Freedom%20Email/A%20Treatise%20On%20The%20History%20of%20Rights%20vs%20Privileges.pdf
2.
https://www.freedomforallseasons.org/Tax%20Freedom%20Email/Jesus%20Position%20On%20Taxes.pdf
3.
https://www.freedomforallseasons.org/Tax%20Freedom%20Email/Massive%20Embezzlement%20&%20Assault%20on%20Private%20Property%20&%20Free%20Choice%20i
n%20Wshington%20State%20and%20America.pdf
4.
https://www.freedomforallseasons.org/Tax%20Freedom%20Email/Rights%20Come%20From%20God%20&%20Cannot%20Be%20Taken%20or%20Taxed%20-%20Privileges%20C
ome%20From%20Man%20&%20May%20Be%20-%20Learn%20How%20Traps%20are%20Set%20
To%20Take%20Our%20Private%20Property.htm
5.
https://www.freedomforallseasons.org/Tax%20Freedom%20Email/Rights%20Come%20From%20God%20&%20Cannot%20Be%20Taken%20or%20Taxed%20-%20Privileges%20C
ome%20From%20Man%20&%20May%20Be%20-%20Learn%20How%20Traps%20are%20Set%20
To%20Take%20Our%20Private%20Property.htm
6.
https://www.freedomforallseasons.org/Tax%20Freedom%20Email/Why%20Private%20Property%20Taxes%20Are%20Unconstitutional%20and%20Treasonous%20(Enhanc
ed).pdf
7.
https://www.freedomforallseasons.org/Constitutional%20Related%20Reports/A%20Treatise%20On%20the%20Corruption%20of%20the%20Constitutional%20Conven
tions%20in%20the%20Several%20States.pdf
8.
Supreme Court cases on Labor -
https://www.voluntarytax.info/Taxes_on_labor.htm Also
to understand fully what your rights are scan this page too
https://www.freedomforallseasons.org/NaturalLawAndNaturalRights.dwt.asp And
this is a must read
https://www.freedomforallseasons.org/UnalienableRightsNew.dwt.asp We
have NO government as it was defined in 1776
*
https://www.freedomforallseasons.org/ConstitutionThatNeverWas.dwt.asp*
https://www.freedomforallseasons.org/CommonLaw.dwt.aspThe
current system is a massive embezzlement of our rights and has
NO
relation to a Constitutional Republic. The cities, counties,
states and
federal governments are municipal corporations who are cross
boarded
with large national and international corporations and run by
elite
global groups such as the Council of Foreign Relations,
Bilderbergers
and Trilateral's. They select the significant
candidates and the people
think they have a choice on who they are voting
for.
Obama and McCain are not natural born and do not qualify
to run. The
One World Government people did not care who "won"
because they selected
them both. This is typical how all the races
are run. The parties are
only the puppets.
I just
slammed together so don't look for spelling and grammar, it's
1:18 and
past bed time here on the ranch. Maybe forward this to your
husband
or print it off. I have been working on this research for years
and
have tons of data.
The existing tax system is fraudulent and is
only a wealth transfer
system to the central banks. Most of the
taxes go to pay for interest
which are totally unnecessary.
I will be releasing another web page on the central banks soon
and will
send it to you. It is a Ponzi scheme. Jackson tried
to stop it and was
successful for a short time but ultimately the central
bankers perverted
the monetary system and the liewyers perverted the
judicial system and
the globalist have perverted the executive
branch. America is
bankrupted several times back in 1930's and we
are being collateralized
for the debt.
I have turned
of ALL mainstream media and the radio long ago and do my
own reading and
research. Coast To Coast AM (570AM) Mon thru Sat 9PM to
2AM are
doing a great job covering a lot of the freedom movement news
and
interviews as well as their paranormal material.
Jack Venrick
Enumclaw, Washington
----- Original Message -----
From: Brooks,
Allyson (DAHP)
To: Jack VenrickSent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 6:06
PM
Subject: RE: The History of Taking Down America & How
Letters
Opposing National Heritage Area are Screened
Jack - Hope
you are having a nice Sunday. Your e-mails created
some interesting
discussion in my house since my husband is a blue
collar worker who feels
unfairly taxed. However, my point back is that
somehow we have to
pay for basic services such as roads, education,
fire, police, etc.
We can't live in anarchy.
But...I do agree with you that large
corporations and large
money have affected the original concept of
representative government.
I think our founding fathers would be appalled
by PACS, opinion centered
news (such as FOX) and the obscene amounts of
money poured into
campaigns. We were supposed to be represented by
the smartest people in
our communities, not the ones who could afford the
most TV commercials.
But, the non-profits who came to the state with
the heritage
area idea are not "tax exempt" corporations that you speak
of. They are
groups like the Center for Wooden Boats, Gig Harbor
historical society,
Tacoma's working waterfront museum. Small
organizations that consist of
20-30 people, many of whom are retirees
like yourself. They are working
desperately to protect their local
historic sites in a world that
doesn't care and doesn't seem to want to
help them very much. Perhaps
if we in America spent more time
learning our history and protecting our
past, we wouldn't be in the
situation we are today. Everyone would
remember why we are a
representative democracy and the symbols of our
past history would be
properly protected.
Thanks for starting an interesting debate
at home. Hope the
additional information is helpful.
All
the best
Allyson
Allyson Brooks
Director/State Historic
Preservation Officer
________________________________
From:
Jack Venrick [mailto:jacksranch@skynetbb.com]
Sent: Sun 8/30/2009 4:10
PM
To: Brooks, Allyson (DAHP)
Cc: Scott Shock PropertyRights;
CaptainKen Shock PropertyRights;
Tom DeWeese (APC)
Subject: The
History of Taking Down America & How Letters
Opposing National
Heritage Area are Screened
Allyson -
Tax exempt
corporations are the drivers and power that have
corrupted government
into the fascist system it is today. This is how
the central
bankers and the money is hidden and launder to direct the
national and
world affairs to their bidding. Everything they do is for
a reason
to herd profit and power into their corner. All private and
public
property in America is being confiscated by the globalist and
this has
been going on since and before 1776.
* Go to this link and print
it out this study and read all
of it in your spare time.
*
https://www.freedomforallseasons.org/Tax%20Freedom%20Email/Tax%20Exempt%20Foundations%20Takings%20Final.pdf
*
Read this
https://www.ratical.org/corporations/Lincoln.html
* And this
https://www.takingliberty.us/ MUST
SEE
Jack Venrick
Enumclaw, Washington
www.freedomforallseasons.org-----
Original Message -----
From: Brooks, Allyson (DAHP)
To: Jack
Venrick Cc: Scott Shock PropertyRights
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009
7:59 PM
Subject: RE: The History of Taking Down America &
How
Letters Opposing National Heritage Area are Screened
Jack -
You are correct. I did misspell grammar and I
shouldn't have counted on
my spell check to pick it up. My error and I
apologize.
The good
news for you is that Enumclaw is outside the
boundaries of the proposed
heritage area. The proposed heritage area
only extends 1/4 mile in
from the saltwater shoreline. The concept is
not being put forward
by government, but by local historical societies,
organizations and
museums. It was these local maritime groups that
requested that the
state legislature and the National Park Service
develop a feasibility
study. The concept did not come from government
but from non-profit
organizations that were hoping to increase heritage
tourism by promoting
our wonderful maritime heritage. We have an amazing
maritime heritage in
WA state and this was one mechanism different
groups were hoping to use
to raise the visibility of our heritage.
Thank-you for the offer to
reprogram my mind. I shall
respectfully decline the offer.
And I am not offended by your e-mails. With all
your
degrees in engineering you are obviously an intelligent
person. I am
proud enough of my nation to live by the premise that
everyone is
entitled to their opinion whether or not I agree with it.
Also, I want to be clear that I do not consider myself
"the boss"
at all even though I work for government. I am very
respectful that
I work for the taxpayers. Most people would have read
your e-mails
and not bothered to answer, particularly on a week-end, but
I am taking
the time because at minimum you should know someone is
listening whether
or not we are in agreement.
And when I say have a nice
week-end I mean it. I am not
being sarcastic.
Have a
nice Sunday tomorrow.
All the best
Allyson
Allyson Brooks
Director/State Historic Preservation
Officer
________________________________
From: Jack Venrick
[mailto:jacksranch@skynetbb.com]
Sent: Sat 8/29/2009 5:32 PM
To:
Brooks, Allyson (DAHP)
Cc: Scott Shock PropertyRights; CaptainKen
Shock
PropertyRights; Tom DeWeese (APC)
Subject: The History of Taking
Down America & How
Letters Opposing National Heritage Area are
Screened
Allyson -
Sorry, I must have forgotten you work
for the
government, it was late when I replied. I threw out too
many pieces of
the puzzle of taking in America without giving you the box
with the
picture on top, so to speak. Once you see the big picture,
you assume
everyone knows where the pieces go. Let me start
over. All is NOT what
it appears to be or is represented or taught
.
Please read the attached email's which are just a
sampling of
the incoming today on the state of the nation especially one
positive
reply. I used to be dumb as a rock about our history. It
took
me 5 years and I can say I have only scratched the surface of
the
orchestrated takings by our so called "government". Without
this new
perspective of American history one is completely lost,
i.e. they would
think you are the boss and I am the
servant.
The reason my last email is "incoherent" to you
is
because you do not have a clue of how America has been brought
down,
with all due respect. You have been brainwashed and "dumbed"
down by
academia, your employer, the media, and the green extreme
movement, just
like I was 5 years ago. You live in a world of make
believe and
arrogance created by an illegitimate unconstitutional
government
including their state sponsored academia and the non
government elite's
that are pulling the strings. Please don't feel alone
or defensive. The
first step is to reprogram yourself. Try it, you
may become enlighten?
Scott is a very smooth fellow and is telling
you what
you want to hear so you will wake up to what he and Tom DeWeese
and
millions of others in America are saying, i.e. American "government"
and
its non government sponsors have long left their 10 square
miles
boundary in Washington D.C. Inc. and their territories, military
bases
and ammo dumps. Make sure and read those other attachments by
Tom
DeWeese, he a Master exposing all of these illegitimate
takings.
I am NOT going to tell you what you want to hear so
you
will submit what I am exposing. The fact you will not submit
what I say
the first time, makes my case, i.e. I am telling you
exactly what you
don't want to hear. 92% of Americans do not want
to hear the hard
truth, so you have lots of company. You have spent
a lifetime
justifying yourself, your state sponsored education and your
position.
This type of thinking amounts to 11 trillion dollars of debt
that USA
INC has got us into, i.e. needless government takings. I
spent a
lifetime justifying all my education and work for The Boeing
Company
too, but I did it on my own dime not tax extortion. I was
dumb as a
rock then about history. In fact I can make a
strong case the rocks
were much smarter than all of us and still
are! At least the rocks are
surviving, while watching us and
freedom die.
It has taken me 5 years to connect all the dots
of
taking of our private and public property in America so I can
understand
why you wouldn't understand in one email. Give yourself
and everyone
else a break. Whether I tell you what you want to hear
or what you
can't stand to hear, in an "incoherent" or "more coherent"
fashion has
little to do with the hard truth of the situation.
What I told you is clear to anyone in the property
rights and
freedom movement. However, it would not make any "sense" to
most
government types, green types and all those who live on or use
the
government for their own gain. The dots of taking over the last
233++
years are a very large puzzle and the few pieces I gave you are too
far
apart for you to connect, unless you see the big picture on the
box.
Again don't be offended, it is just the nature of the
beast.
What I have learned over these last 5 years is posted on
my
site. I have had to repeat this story so many times I uploaded
much
of the incoming and outgoing material from many others in the
freedom
movement who are way ahead of the curve of taking. They are
continually
uncovering all of this treachery faster now than it can be
buried by the
crooks in and out of the fascist system we have today, you
call it
"government". I call it a syndicated banking
racket.
And I strongly urge you to spend sometime learning
our
history and not be so self righteous that you think you know it all
and
can control what people submit whether you like the way they say it
or
not. I challenge you to drop all your limiting belief
systems. I had
too just to comprehend how much had been
taken. I could not believe
what I was learning nor could
others. Consider this exercise,
everything you know or have been
taught is NOT true and everything
someone tells you especially outside of
the government IS true.
If you are only submitting what you want to
hear on this
feasibly study, one wonders, what else have you have
deliberately
tampered with in your career.
Let me give you
the bottom line to what I have
substantiated beyond any reasonable
doubt. We have no legitimate
government in America. It has
long been bankrupted several times. It
is no longer a
Constitutional Republic and not even a "democracy", its
more of a fascist
system. The tax system is totally unconstitutional and
fraudulent.
Most if not all of the wars were orchestrated for profit
and power. And I
am an EX conservative hawk saying this. Because of
what I learned,
I changed my party status to a "free agent". The
"government" for
the most part has been incorporated into layers of
cross boarded
municipal corporations and multinational corporations and
do not
represent anybody but their own directors, central bankers, the
bench,
Bar, and other special interests. The fascist system is only
held
together by increasing tyranny, Draconian regulations, and
insane
debt.
It is even far worse than this brief "poorly
written"
letter can say. The so called "Constitutional Conventions"
and the
resultant "Constitution" were never approved by the people nor
their
Republics and Commonwealth legislatures. The Articles of
Confederation
which were the standing law of the land were unanimously
approved by the
thirteen colonies. However, the word was sent out
before the
"Constitutional Conventions" that they were only going to
amend the
Articles NOT rewrite them. The Federalist controlled the urban
centers
and orchestrated enough pressure (13,000) to replace the Articles
of
Confederation with an all powerful central government. This was
a
complete surprise and went 180 degrees against those who hated
big
government, i.e. the majority of the colonists were faked out.
A strong
central government was the last thing free people wanted, after
living
100 plus years under the tyranny of British, and other
European
monarchies, kingdoms, et al.
Thus the last article in the
Constitution stating the
nine states approving would be "enough", i.e.
not quite enough for a
majority but "enough". In other words, they
could NOT initially get an
unanimous approval of their plans to
centralize a strong government over
the very independent states but they
did it anyway. The remaining
states were strong armed
later. Also the Bill of Rights was left out
initially, the
"liewyers" and others did not want the people to have any
rights.
It is said there were some 200 rights offered up initially, I
have
gathered up 60 some that you can find on my site. The Bill
of
Rights should have included all these in Articles, NOT just
10
amendments.
Are you getting the picture yet or is my
sentence
structure not quite correct for you?
In the book "The
Constitution That Never Was" Ralph
Boryzewski, a 92 year old Rochester
New York retired policeman makes a
great case, that the then American
lawyers, many British trained,
orchestrated the break down of the
"separation of powers". They did
this by infiltrating every branch
and creating a centralized all
powerful judiciary and ultimately
progressive legal positivism that was
not wanted by any self respecting
colonist or free man or women. Ralph
fought the New York state
political corrupt machinery for 50 years in
his career before he
retired.
And then the central banking families from Europe
took
care of the rest of the spoils quickly. I'm sure you see the
big
picture by now.
One can say that the several million colonists
at the
time only traded one form of slavery and for another. The
debtors
prison and religious persecution which they sailed away from,
were only
transmuted from a very visible, cold and crude form of
oppression in
England AND Europe to a maniacal divisive and deceptive
central union
"government" of the states. And that "union" was
never an unanimous
union but if the hard truth were known, it was coupe
by an elite few who
happen to be the creditor class. I
am a white middle class type, you
can check out my background at the
bottom of my Home page.
The so called anti Federalist, those against
the
orchestrated "Constitutional Conventions were right on and
prophetic
looking back, without question. All this is on my
site.
Jackson and Hamilton fought over the central banks.
However,
ultimately the central bankers took over. The truth be known,
the
European Bankers never left. General Washington won the battle
by
divine intervention but we immediately lost the war. The
monetary
system and our base of gold and silver was quickly taken down in
large
part because of the orchestrated wars then of course the
social
engineering of the New Deal took down all of the country.
Please go to
my page on "Must Read..Must See" and get all this material
and study it.
Back to your "celebration" of your heritage.
* Trying to discuss the concept of a second
American revolution
when I am simply trying to CELEBRATE our wonderful
country is baffling
and has no relation to the issue at hand.
If you want to
gather up some funding and friends on a
strictly voluntary basis, on your
own time and invite some of the tribes
down to the beach and have a
"celebration" and dance to our heritage, go
for it. Maybe I will
come down and bring my drum.
However, if you want to
orchestrate some sort of
national/international CONgressional state
taking, i.e. "heritage areas"
using more unconstitutional debt and
illegitimate taxes placed on the
backs of the several state natural born,
that is a very bad idea. In
fact, it is also a very bad idea to
"stimulate" CONgress at all and they
do NOT read the bills NOR do they
honor their oath. They are crooks and
they dishonor everyone while
at the same time they authorize more debt
for the very acts of treason
they commit. They do all this while they
collude with multinational
corporations, central banks and foreign
nations to take more of our
private and public property with some
semantic swindling name assigned to
it for camouflage.
Don't you get it? The brokers always win
every
transaction and the natural born sovereign and free state Citizens
loose
loose their property, jobs, homes, vehicles, and life to
the
orchestration of legal fiction semantic swindling Bankers, Bench,
Bar
and political Brokers.
Now they won't call it that because it
would be too
obvious. They will call it "sustaining development", I
call in
sustaining death. Or they may call it, "Critical
Areas" or "man caused
global warming" or "alternative energy" or
"heritage areas" or whatever.
All of this junk "science". Most of
all they are semantic swindling
labels to gain funding and power over the
poor wage earner or property
owners. Oh and by the way they will
also destroy the person and their
family and their life. You don't
believe me do you? Check out the
facts on my site on embattled
property owners page.
Glance at the attached email titled "Natl.
Collective
Consciousness Call ..." from We The People group that says it
all.
The rising tide of resentment and discontent in America,
i.e.
the Second American Revolution, is as foreign to you and
YOUR
"government" as it was to King George and the British during the
some
100 years after they came after our freedoms again. Early
Americans ran
from this oppression in 1620 and they are rebelling
again.
Freedom was successful when we had little
"government"
and we were left alone. In the following 55 years
after 1620, we were
becoming the envy of the power hungry European
monarchies. They were
always looking for more revenue, more slaves,
more treasure, to war on
the rest of the world. The Kings men
started to arrive again in force
in 1675 to tax, occupy and
oppress. They and other European countries
long thought the new
frontier in America would be a great "heritage"
area for their coffers
too.
You have a title "Director of State Historic
Preservation"
but you cannot connect the dots of taking that your own
office is
involved in. You want to celebrate an event that ultimately
has a history
of taking private property and making more public property
off-limits.
This "feasibility study" has no standing and must be delayed
and
stopped.
* Trying to discuss the concept of a
second
American revolution when I am simply trying to CELEBRATE our
wonderful
country is baffling and has no relation to the issue at
hand. -
America cannot celebrate taking anyone's private or
public property
* The state legislature directed this agency
to
complete the feasibility study for the Maritime Heritage Area
- JUST
SAY NO
It is not what you want to "celebrate" that is
the issue
here, it is how the government is going about it and the
complete lack
of the downstream collateral impact of what is being
imposed on property
owners and the tax payers of the nation. All the
takings are connected
and are amplified downstream not unlike a small
quiet slipping of snow
grows into an avalanche.
Jack
Venrick
www.freedomforallseasons.orgEnumclaw,
Washington
B.S. Electrical Engineering
M.S. Applied
Science
Industrial Engineering
Business Administration
The Boeing
Company
30 Years Retired
Electrical Systems
Industrial Engineering
Systems
Resource Forecasting & Management Systems
Test Data
Systems
Facilities Management Systems
Engineering Standards
Systems
PS
You misspelled "grammer" three times, it is
correctly
spelled "grammar". If you write me again try to have some
command of
the King's English, i.e. consider running spell check on all
your
correspondence.
"Have a "nice" day"
----- Original
Message -----
From: Brooks, Allyson (DAHP)
To: Jack
Venrick
Cc:Scott Shock
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 8:49 AM
Subject: RE: State Response
re: Letter Opposing
National Heritage Area for WA coastlines
Jack
- Please read Scott's e-mail to below,
opposing the heritage area, as
part of this string of e-mails. Scott's
e-mail to me was written in
a coherent fashion, using clear English
grammer, and relating the
importance of maritime history to the
possibility of a heritage
area. Scott clearly stated that he valued our
maritime history but
was against the concept of a heritage area.
Your e-mail to me,
however, is incoherent. You
are rambling about government issues
that do not relate to our maritime
heritage and celebrating the history
of our state. I appreciate the
fact that you oppose the concept of
a heritage area but please oppose it
using clear English grammer, clear
concepts, and relate your opposition
to the project at hand.
Scott's e-mail should be used by you as an
example of how to write in a
clear, concise manner that makes the point.
Trying to discuss the concept
of a second American revolution when I am
simply trying to CELEBRATE our
wonderful country is baffling and has no
relation to the issue at
hand.
I will include Scott's e-mail in our study
but
not yours as it does not relate to the concept of a heritage area
but
discusses other unrelated issues. Since I appreciate all
different
viewpoints, which is what makes our nation so great, I strongly
urge you
to work with Scott to write me again with your opposition that
shows a
command of English grammer, along with an understanding of the
concepts
at hand. If you write me intelligently with your
opposition I will
include your thoughts and concerns in the feasibility
study.
By the way, I had many family members killed in
death
camps in Germany or shot out right by Nazis in Greece. I
have
family members who survived. I can tell you that death camps
have
nothing to do with celebrating our maritime history. You may
want to
review WWII history so you have an understanding of the issue you
are
referring to.
Please rewrite your e-mail (and ask Scott
for
assistance). Again, if you send me an intelligently thought
out,
grammatically correct opinion in an e-mail I will certainly include
your
opposing views in our study.
Have a nice week-end.
Sincerely,
Allyson Brooks
Allyson
Brooks
Director/State Historic Preservation
Officer
________________________________
From: Jack
Venrick
[mailto:jacksranch@skynetbb.com]
Sent: Fri 8/28/2009 9:54
PM
To: Brooks, Allyson (DAHP)
Subject: State Response re: Letter
Opposing
National Heritage Area for WA coastlines
To: Allyson
Brooks
Director/State Historic Preservation Officer
Department of
Archaeology and Historic
Preservation
bcc: Property Rights Groups,
Evergreen Freedom
Foundation, Washington House, Senate, US Congressional
Reps, Supreme
Court, Governors Office, Puget Sound Media, Friends &
Neighbors
________________________________
Here is another
must read education for you by
Tom DeWeese, "Hallowed Ground and
Government's Relentless Assault on
Private Property" -
https://www.newswithviews.com/DeWeese/tom68.htm.
Also
check this out
https://www.newswithviews.com/DeWeese/tom137.htm.
Please
understand that the union of the several
states and the UN do not have
authority or jurisdiction in the sovereign
states. Just because a
Congressional delegation and a global elite make
a deal to transfer state
public land and water into an international
domain does not the
Constitutional law make in America, as much as you
and they like to
think.
U.S. Congress and the Washington State House
and
Senate are more often in violation of the founding laws of the
land.
Their is no government in America as it was originally
intended.
America has long ago, been collateralized by the national and
global
central bankers.
The U.S. National Park Service , the UN
and the
US Congress is replete with examples of abutting private property
owner
tyranny.
Transferring public or private land of
the
several states and the union of the several states to elite national
or
international bodies is an act of arrogance and treason that
exemplify
the out of touch world, government types live in today. You
are
"preserving" nothing but increasing global control of our own
land.
Government arrogance has long ago exceeded
its
authority and jurisdiction, the laws of the land and the laws of
Nature
and Nature's God. The NPS, UN, as well as Congress
were never given
authority to transfer our land, our water, our
sovereignty and our
recreation into the hands of elite green
international globalist and
their agenda. The several states, the
union of the several states live
in a municipal incorporated land of OZ
that is NOT part of America that
We the Natural Born, sovereign and free
state Citizens live in.
You live in the Federal Zone and have NO
rights
nor have the Natural Born given you or its CON..gress the
privilage to
tie up their own land with green agendas. I hope you
and our CON..gress
soon learn to play in your own sandbox and stay out of
ours. A Second
American Revolution is stirring over this escalating
invasion of our
private and public land.
The idea that
green government and its
controlling non government tax exempt
foundations think they can tie up
all our public and private land in
America and turn it into a zoo, while
they herd the rest of us into urban
sustaining death camps is an
"Obamination". It is no wonder we have
an illegal alien in the
White
House.
Sincerely,
John(Jack)
R. Venrick
Enumclaw, Washington
www.freedomforallseasons.org-----
Original Message -----
From: Scott S. Shock
To:
CAPR
Cc:
Subject: RE: Letter Opposing National
Heritage Area for WA
coastlines
Dear Scott,
Thank you for taking
the time to write
me with your opinion and for contributing your thoughts
in a
professional and respectful manner (that doesn't always seem to be
the
case these days....). I will ensure that your e-mail is
included in the
study as an additional opinion on the feasibility of
becoming a heritage
area.
. Therefore, I am
required by law to
complete the study. However, the study is
supposed to generate comments
and concerns such as yours, not just
supporters. Therefore, we will
include your concerns with those of
others who either support or don't
support the concept. The
feasibility study will ultimately be forwarded
to the National Park
Service who will be making the decision as to
whether its feasible. or
not, for WA to have a National Maritime
Heritage Area. Ultimately,
NPS will be looking to see whether we have
the resources, and more
importantly, whether there is local support for
the designation.
Should the NPS determine that it is
feasible to be a
heritage area, it will then be up to WA's Congressional
delegation to
pass a bill designating WA as a National Maritime Heritage
Area.
You should also ensure that the Congressional delegation is aware
of your
views.
Thank you again for contacting me.
I
appreciate hearing your concerns and opinions.
All the
best
Allyson
Allyson Brooks Ph.D.
Director/State Historic Preservation
Officer
Department of
Archaeology and Historic
Preservation
Please note: As of
Sept. 22nd 2008, DAHP
will have new office hours. The agency will
be open from 7-5:30 on
M-Thurs and closed on Fridays.
________________________________
From: Scott
Shock
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 12:18 PM
To: Brooks, Allyson
(DAHP); Griffith,
Subject: Letter Opposing National
Heritage Area for
WA coastlines
Dr. Allyson Brooks and Colleagues,
I can
appreciate that the feasibility
study <
https://www.maritimeheritage.net/resources/mha.asp>
you are
leading on establishing a National Maritime Heritage Area is
a
well-intentioned effort to showcase our maritime heritage throughout
the
state. In the recent Kitsap Sun article
(
https://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2009/aug/19/national-recognition-state-gig-harbor/?story_detail_gig-harbor=1#ixzz0OkVLFcNs),
you were quoted as
saying that "the designation would have no imposition
on private
property rights" and that it "doesn't affect local control
over land
use". However, there will inevitably be an impact on
property rights
and land use, as local governments and NGOs will
inevitably modify their
land use decisions and actions were an NMHA
present. This will
certainly have a cumulative impact on property
rights and the health and
viability of communities over time
(reference
<
https://www.newswithviews.com/DeWeese/tom102.htm>
). The suggestion
that we will gain more tourism as a result of the
NMHA is appealing, but
unlikely to be significant enough to offset the
impacts to property
owners and communities of land use decisions that
will inevitably be
taken by local governments and NGOs if an NMHA were
present.
As one who was raised on an antique
wooden schooner for
six years of my childhood, I greatly appreciate and
treasure our maritime
heritage. However, I strongly urge you to give up
the pursuit of
the NMHA. The federal designation is not necessary to
achieve the
tourism goals. Volunteer collaborative efforts from
local
preservation organizations could link together different parts of
our
maritime heritage by creating web-based resources, pamphlets, etc
for
interested tourists. That would be a much more wholesome,
spirited, and
cost-effective way to treasure our heritage without more
federal
government over-reach impacting our communities. In fact,
since it
appears that your agency has already facilitated a web-based
network of
maritime heritage resources (Maritime Heritage
Network
<
https://www.maritimeheritage.net/>
), why do we need a national
designation? Let's leave the bloated
federal government out of our
maritime heritage and our
communities. We can have a better, happier
future without
it.
Best regards,
Scott Shock
Director,
Citizens' Alliance for
Property Rights (
www.capr.us
________________________________
Reference:
https://www.newswithviews.com/DeWeese/tom102.htmNATIONAL
HERITAGE AREAS: ASSAULT ON
PRIVATE PROPERTY
By Tom
DeWeese
January 23, 2008
NewsWithViews.com
One of the dangerous
pieces of
legislation lying in wait as Congress reopens for business is
the
"Celebrating America's Heritage Act." The bill has already passed
the
House (H.R.1483) by a vote of 291-122 and now awaits action in
the
Senate. Why is it so dangerous?
If passed, it would create six
new
national Heritage Areas and increase federal funding for nine
existing
heritage areas by 50 percent. The bill would send over $135
million of
federal pork to special interests to be used to influence
local zoning
laws and help lock away private land in the name of
historic
preservation.
The six Heritage Areas to be created
by
the legislation include The Journey Through Hallowed Ground National
HA,
covering parts of Virginia, Maryland and Pennsylvania and West
Virginia;
Niagara Falls National HA in New York; Muscle Shoals National
HA in
Alabama; Freedom's Way National HA in Massachusetts and New
Hampshire;
Abraham Lincoln National HA in Illinois; and the Santa Cruz
National HA
in Arizona.
To understand the massive size
and
impact of these designations, consider the controversial
"Journey
Through Hallowed Ground National Heritage Area" (JTHG). JTHG is
designed
to cover a 175-mile corridor from Thomas Jefferson's
"Monticello" in
Charlottesville, Virginia to the battlefield in
Gettysburg,
Pennsylvania.
Sold as a way to "honor" and
promote
tourism to the many historic sites in the area where much of the
Civil
War was fought, the Heritage Area really serves as a stealth land
grab.
Heritage Areas are federal land use mandates with specific
boundaries
foisted on local communities. Those boundaries have
consequences for
property owners caught inside.
It must be
understood the Heritage Area
affects all the land in the designated area,
not just recognized
historic sights. The federal designation, made from
congressional
legislation, like H.R.1483, creating federal regulations
and oversight
through the National Park Service, require a form of
contract between
state and local governmental entities and the Secretary
of the Interior.
That contract is to manage the land-use of the region
for preservation.
That means federal control and zoning, either directly,
under the terms
of the "management pact" or indirectly.
Such
"indirect" control is the real
danger. In spite of the specific language
in the bill which states
property rights will be protected, the true
damage to homeowners may
well come from private groups, non-governmental
organizations (NGOs) and
preservation agencies which receive public funds
through the Park
Service to implement the polices of the Heritage
Area.
The funds flowing from the Park Service
provide a seductive
pork barrel system for private advocacy groups to
enforce their vision of
development of the Heritage Area. The experience
with more than
twenty-four such Heritage Areas now in existence
nationwide clearly shows
such groups will convert this money into
political activism to encourage
local community and county governments
to pass and enforce strict zoning
laws. While the tactic makes it appear
that home rule is fully in force,
removing blame from the federal
designation, the impact is fully the
fault of the Heritage Areas
designation. The result being private
property owner's rights are
diminished and much of the local land use
brought to a standstill.
Zoning and land use policies are
and
should be local decisions to be made by locally elected officials
who
are directly accountable to the citizens they represent.
However,
National Heritage Areas corrupt this inherently local procedure
by
adding federal dollars, federal oversight, and federal mandates to
the
mix.
Specifically, when an area is designated
a National
Heritage Area, the Park Service partners with environmental
or historic
preservation special interest groups to "restore, preserve,
and manage"
anything and everything that is naturally, culturally,
historically, and
recreationally significant to the Heritage Area. That
is exactly what
legislation for HR. 1143 says. This sweeping mandate
ensures that every
square inch of land, whether private or public is a
prime target for
regulation or acquisition.
But what of the promised tourism that
is
supposed to help local communities? Many members of Congress admit
they
support the concept of Heritage Areas for that very reason: jobs
created
by people visiting their little part of the world to see why it's
so
special. Is it true?
As has been stated, those
boundaries
have consequences - strict control over the use of the land.
Certain
industries may prove to be too "dirty" to satisfy environmental
special
interests. Eventually such existing industrial operations will
find
themselves regulated or taxed to a point of forcing them to leave or
go
out of business. Property that is locked away for preservation is
no
longer productive and no longer provides the community with tax
dollars.
Roads most assuredly will be closed (to protect the integrity of
the
historic area). That means land is locked away from private
development,
diminishing growth for the community. It also means hunting
and
recreational use of the land will most certainly be
curtailed.
Eventually, such restrictions will take
away the
community's economic base. Communities with sagging economies
become
run-down and uninviting. Preservation zoning and lack of jobs
force
ordinary people to move away. Experience has shown tourism
rarely
materializes as promised. And it's never enough to save an
area
economically.
These are the reasons why the
specific
language in the Heritage Area legislation designed to protect
private
property rights is basically meaningless to the actual outcome.
While
the land is not specifically locked away in the name of the
federal
designation, its very existence creates the pressure on local
government
to act. The result is the same.
It is interesting to
note that
proponents of Heritage Areas refuse to even consider a program
to
officially notify landowners of pending Heritage Area designations.
When
specifically asked to include such notification in their plans,
they
shuffle their feet, say there is no way to do it and then drop
the
subject. Of course the ability is there. The mailman delivers to
each
and every one of the homes in the designated area every day. No
matter
how noble a project may sound, alarm bells should go off when
proponents
want to enforce their vision in secret.
The fact is the
Heritage Area
designations are completely unnecessary. Most of the
historic sites are
already under the control of the National Park
Service, including Thomas
Jefferson's home, Manassas Battle field (Bull
Run - to you Yankees) and
Gettysburg Battlefield. Several other
birthplaces and significant
historic sights are also well
preserved.
The boundaries of Gettysburg, for
example, were
specifically laid out by the men who fought there. Most of
the land was
private and donated to the park by the owners more than 125
years ago.
While protecting private property and the farms across which
the battle
raged, they preserved the most significant parts into what
today is a
comprehensive memorial.
This old system of voluntary
contributions
and non-coerced purchases of the land is far superior to a
process that
uses the massive power of the federal government to rip out
the roots of
property owners who are simply unlucky enough to live near
something that
should be special and precious. Given their way, many
preservationist
special interest groups would set out to turn the entire
nation into a
museum.
In contrast, it is significant to note
that today, as a
coercive preservation policy is imposed in Gettysburg,
the community has
seen the near destruction of its once vital downtown
where private
businesses are being forced out. Many parts of downtown
now seem rundown
and void of significant businesses like clothing shops
or hardware
stores. Most businesses in the downtown area today are
restaurants and
tee shirt shops designed for the tourist industry.
That's not the way for
a town to build a future.
Every step of land had something
from
the past occur on it. But let us remember, those who fought on
these
fields of "hallowed ground" did so to protect our liberty,
including
ownership of private property. One must ask how they would
react to huge
government restrictions over the land now, simply because
they fought
there. One can envision them again taking up arms to free it
from
government clutches.
Proponents of Heritage Areas are
using
our great love of history as an emotional sledgehammer to impose
a
massive federal pork barrel scheme that enriches the pockets of
private
advocacy groups by helping to impose draconian controls over the
dreams
of average American homeowners.
(c) 2008 Tom DeWeese - All
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